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Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« on: December 01, 2010, 03:22:06 am »
UPDATE II
It's been confirmed that you might be able to get a refund or get your money back on Illusion Mage/3D Magix Pro purchases through your bank or payment gateway so it's imperative that you follow the steps below, and where/if necessary, point them (the banks etc.) to this topic so they can confirm the refund request/reversal event against the facts presented here. However, and as mentioned below, it's important to understand that getting a refund on the Illusion Mage scam may be dependant on how your bank works, not all of which have the same refund policies in place. So check with them to make sure.

UPDATE I
If you've found yourself at the receiving end of the Illusion Mage, 3DMagix, 3D Magix Pro or whatever else '"Seth Avery" decides to call this 'product' and want your money back, there are a couple of things you can do to properly seek remedy against the payment. Note that these may vary depending on your geographical location so, although Mr Avery states clearly there is a 60 day refund policy, if you're in the UK making a purchase, your 'right' to expect what you paid for is protected under a 14 day return/refund Statutory Right (this has to be a legitimate grievance by the way, faulty goods, goods not as described and so on.. it's not normally binding where you simply change your mind after purchase - remedy in those situations are at the discretion of the seller, not the buyer).

  • First... Make sure you submit a support/customer ticket with ClickBank and/or the various sites running the scams so your request is officially logged, this is important. You should receive and automated email reply of such.
  • Second... Contact your bank, if you used a Credit, Debit Card or other bank based payment. Or PayPal and issue a charge-back or refund request making sure to state that you didn't receive what you paid for, goods were not as described and/or they may in fact be distributing 'illegal' copyrighted material or other statements to the affect that it's made clear the product is entirely different to what you were expecting (software updates excluding)

It's then just a question of seeing what response you garner from the Banks, unfortunately there's not too much more consumers can do beyond this. If the Bank or your payment gateway doesn't cancel or issue a charge-back on the transaction then you'll have to consider the money lost.

Get 3D Magix Pro and Illusion Mage for FREE!

That's right, download the very latest version of these industry leading 3D software applications free by clicking here! Why pay nearly $100 for a "deluxe" or almost $50 for a "standard" version or even more when the price goes up when you can GET IT FOR FREE!. Start making models like Pixar in minutes, Dreamworks in mere seconds. Everything you need is included. Click to download FREE 3DMagix and Illusion Mage.


If you clicked those links above, congratulations on not being duped.


Yep, that's right, 3DMagix and Illusion Mage are out-and-out scams. Although the 3DMagix scam is from 2009 and  relatively old  (read up on this here), it appears  the 'owner' of that one, a guy by the name of "Seth Avery" if the Illusion Mage web site (illusionmage.com)  is to be believed, is behind this latest version;  essentially Blender 3D re-packaged together with some  ripped PDFs and other stolen community authored material.  And forget about support, unless you regard tutorials and a web site based FAQ as support *rolleyes*.


Illusion Mage 3D scam website.. it's a big page! Seriously big!


Although the GNU/GPL license does allow you to re-sell and re-package Blender and associated materials from the Blender web site, Foundation and Institute, you're effectively obliged to clearly state the origination of the material you're selling. Not doing that, or obfuscating the fact, is not only misleading, but could be considered 'fraud' where money is involved, i.e. the deliberate intent to misinform customers so as to trick them into  purchasing (bait and switch?). This is what the owner did with 3DMagix (before it got pulled) and is currently doing with  Illusion Mage. And although Blender is mentioned on the site, it's not clearly stated that it's a third party application that's being bundling  under GPL as part of Illusion Mage (just what is Illusion Mage then if not the 3D application?). The other material in the package is also likely included without the original authors knowledge, or remuneration for that matter.


Original material on Blender.org lifted and placed in Illusion Mages website


This time around however, there's an extra dimension to the story, and that's the article spam that's flooded the Internet.


Messrs Avery has taken it upon himself to write and submit biased and self-serving reviews of his products to various article syndication web sites that get picked up and posted to other sites (it's why you can't find any actual support or complaints about the package and products because they're simply drowned out by the article spam he's posted). A lot of it AdSpam, web sites set up for link back and traffic revenue generation from Google Adverts which are placed on these pulled articles. And more often than not,   articles don't undergo any vetting before being published (these web sites all carry 'disclaimers' for this very reason) along with an affiliate link that earns the good sir income every time one is clicked.


So much for unbiased and honest reviews of Illusion Mage 3D


He's been exceptionally busy for the last couple of months in fact, submitting 'fake' reviews and articles to all manner of junk review sites; posting links and fake comments to others saying how good the product is; even posting fake anti-scam articles on anti-scam web sites to deliberately trick those looking for imformation about this scam into thinking it's not and buying into it. It's a win-win; he gets sales from the product, and income from Advert and affiliate traffic. Trouble is, it's all done  fraudulantly.


Fake articles posted to *anti* SCAM websites claiming Illusion Mage is real


So... If you purchased this 'package' (get in touch as we'd love to get your personal take on this scam), delete it and issue a refund or charge back through PayPal or whatever medium you used to buy into the con; you'll not see that cash again if you don't. If you see a video on YouTube or an article on the web, flag it or comment to reveal the scam and get the articles and information pulled.


Other names under which the scam may be found - "IllusionMage", "IllusionMage 3D", "Illusion Mage 3D", "IllusionMage3D", "Illusion Mage scam", "Illusionmage scam", "Illusion Mage 3D scam"


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Re: Illusion Mage & 3DMagixPro scam
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 06:08:07 pm »

It appears that the 3DMagix scam is back, this time as "3DMagixPro" (3dmagixpro.com). Same deal, same 'package', different presentation (but the same as Illusion Mage). This time promoted by "Cody Landon" a "Software and Graphics Engineer" - can't be that good of an engineer if he can't tell he's reselling Blender 3D and community generated content again!.


Again the scam is deceptive in it's presentation on just what you're buying, if 3D Magix Pro isn't a piece of software (Blender 3D in this case), then just what are you buying (that is meant in terms of who owns the material being sold and not the bullet point list of 'features', "Cody" didn't write it, so did he get permissions for inclusion)? If the previous iteration of the 3DMagix scam and the Illusion Mage scam are anything to go by it's likely nothing more than other peoples stolen and uncredited material packed up into a 'product' of dubious origins. Buyers beware. Oh and just as above, forget about support of any kind. Don't say you haven't been warned.


Note the striking similarities between the 3D Magix Pro (below) and Illusion Mage web sites.

3DMagix Pro scam


The 3D Magix Pro scam is purchasable through PayPal via a 'company' called "Frontier Inc." ("Frontier Entertainment" - not to be confused with the said same Frontier Entertainment game developer, one can quite easily speculate that the 'name' was chosen as yet another tool to purposefully deceive). Illusion Mage is purchased through clickbank.net (which seems act as payment gateway for a lot of similar looking 'services').

3D Magix Pro purchased through PayPal via 'Frontier Entertainment' (not the same company as the game development studio)

Illusion Mage purchased through Clickbank.net


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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro scam
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 03:33:17 am »

This is what's was in the 3D Magix (Pro) package (see footnotes below). It can be safely assumed that this is also the contents of what's in the 'new' 3D Magix Pro and Illusion Mage 3D packages;

  • [exe] 3DMagixBlender-windows-2.48a.exe
  • [exe] vcredist_x86.exe
  • [pdf] 3D Magix Blender Mini-Manual (2.25) by Eugene Lam
  • [pdf] Blender Basics 2nd Ed. Classroom Tutorial Book for Blender 2.42a by James Chronister
  • [txt] LicenseandSourcecode.txt
  • [txt] Licenseforvideos.txt
    • [dir] Bonus
      • [exe] pixie.exe
      • [exe] ArtOfIllusion272-Windows_1.exe
      • [zip] pencil.zip
        • "Pencil" v0.4.4beta by Pascal Naidon
      • [zip] animv095c.zip
        • [exe] "Anim8or" v095
        • [pdf] anim8or_manualv095 by Steven Glanville
      • [zip] CreateaToon.zip
        • CreaToonInstall.exe (cracked) by unknown
    • [dir] For Mac Installation
      • [zip] OSX-10.4-py2.3-intel.zip
        • Blender 2.47 QuickStart chart (Scribus 1.3.3.11) by unknown
        • (misc. Blender installation files for Mac OS)
      • OSX-powerpc.dmg
    • [dir] Video Training **
      • [dir] Step by Step Modelling
        • modelling_the_arm.wmv (2.36?) by Jonathan Frammingham [1]
        • modelling_the_hand_PT1.wmv [1]
        • modelling_the_hand_PT2.wmv [1]
        • Modelling-joining_the_meshes.wmv [1]
        • Modelling-modelling_the_leg.wmv [1]
        • Modelling-modellingthefoot.wmv [1]
        • Modelling-setting_upreference_images.wmv [1]
        • Modelling-setting_up-the_torso.wmv [1]
        • Modelling-softcomp.avi (2.36) by tuxbot[2]
        • modellingthetorso.wmv [1]
      • [dir] Getting Started
        • GettingStarted-3dview.avi (2.34) by Glen Moyes [3]
        • GettingStarted-Interface.avi (2.34) [3]
        • GettingStarted-Overview.wmv (2.46) by Cinemacchiato
        • GettingStarted-vf1.avi (2.34) [3]
        • GettingStarted-vf2.avi (2.34) [3]
      • [dir] Feature Usage
        • Features-camera.avi (2.34) by HeadCheese
        • Features-nmap.avi (2.36) by Pim de groot (mifune)
        • Features-ramp.avi (2.34) by Glen Moyes
      • [dir] Advanced
        • OverMyShoulders-volley-sessions.avi (2.36) by unknown4
        • TexturizingWithMultipleImages467.wmv (2.47) by Cinemacchiato

So... it's quite a sad collection then, relative to 3D Magix, 3D Magix Pro and Illusion Mage being the superduper, mega-excellant, pixar-liscious package that it isn't. It's all out of date, being for the most part about Blender 2.34 or 2.36, which must be about five or so years old now? Not only that but no real care has been given to the materials selection in terms of there being any particular learning chronology; "Seth Avery", "Cory Landon" or whatever his name is, has quite literally  grabbed some  files off the internet and bundled them together in RAR and ZIP archive  which he's  simply reselling 'as is'. There's nothing of any inherent value created by doing this. You can't even argue the "convenience" angle because the material is  useless given how Blender has changed since 2.34/6, especially with 2.5 series out now. The truth is out now, so hopefully this information will serve to inform the unsuspecting ahead of the fake articles and junk anti-scam reviews he's spammed the Internet with.


Is 3D Magix a scam? Yes.


Is 3D Magix Pro a scam? Yes.


Is Illusion Mage 3D a scam? Yes.


Footnotes:


**: Most if not all the videos included in the package are freely available from - http://www.ibiblio.org/bvidtute/. Material is released under artlibre.org license (which does allow "commercial use" but appears to require attribution and not just license inclusion).


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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro scam
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 11:34:28 pm »
Two images sourced (thx Walli) to their original owners (both of which have non-commercial use clauses on their work);
http://smokejaguar.deviantart.com/art/Industrial-Modeling-Basics-CC-69375720
http://night-fate.deviantart.com/art/manipulation-tutorial-18-126417602

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 11:22:52 pm »
Obviously with Christmas having just been and gone, reports are coming in that people have fallen foul of the Illusion Mage and 3D Magix Pro scams. The question then is, how do you/my mum/dad/aunty or the relative that bought Illusion Mage/3D Magix as a Christmas present for you or someone else get their money refunded? I doubt the "60 day money back guarantee" is worth the virtual paper its written on so...  what you need to do is issue a charge-back on the Illusion Mage/3D Magix Pro purchase through the debit/credit card, PayPal, or whatever mechanism was used to buy the fake product. Let them know the reason, that Illusion Mage/3D Magix Pro are 'fake' products sold through deliberately misleading advertising (point them at this topic if it helps explain things to them). You can then also let Clickbank.net know they have a fraudulent seller using their services, although it's doubtful anything will be done there as Clickbank appears to be used quite extensively by 'scams' of this nature.

Finally, as readers of this topic have already been doing, drop KatsBits (info@katsbits.com) a line and let us know about your experiences with the Illusion Mage/3D Magix Pro scams. The more awareness brought to bear on this scam, the better.

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Illusion mage/3D Magix article and review spam
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 11:26:36 am »
Be aware there are a good number of new articles appearing online, which incidentally have appeared within a few days of each other over the Christmas/New Year period on more websites than Yell.com has in its directory, all attesting to how "great" IllusionMage3D and/or 3D Magix Pro are and how they're genuine products. They're not of course. It's all smoke and mirrors.

As before, these new articles repeat claims of being "honest" and "personal" reviews of IllusionMage, which again, they're not. But that's besides the point because in suggesting that these reviews are "personal" and "honest" the author is tapping into a well understood and used psychological sales 'trick' that takes advantage of a fundamental 'flaw' (as salesmen liken it to being) in way we process the information we absorb; that we are more likely to believe something when it's told to us by someone. This means our initial assumptions about a product, whether founded in truth or lies, if not countered, are believed because we generally 'trust' what we're told; a review on a web site that appears to belong to a 'person' (as opposed to a business) plays into the aforementioned 'flaw' because we automatically assume the contents to be true by association - it's on someone's personal site so must have been written by a person, therefore it must be true/real, even if the opposite is in fact the case (notwithstanding the originating articles author being a real person, obviously).

This is why scams work, something that's exacerbated (for consumers) if sellers are not honest from the outset. If that's the case then it's relatively straightforward to manipulate the initial assumptions made about a product being looking at; we only start to get a hint that something's wrong when we start to see the same information appearing over and over again in different guises, the IllusionMage article spam being a case in point as it all tends to cite the same bullet points from one article to another despite the apparent differing authorship - it's one thing to cite product features, but quite another to find a users experience of using the software (the 'review') to be, word-for-word, almost identical to dozens of others.

For this latest crop of fake reviews and articles on IllusionMage/3D Magix Pro there's an added twist; repeat references to the products "Sales Rank" and "Refund Rate". In the context of this scam, this is a misappropriation of sales data directly associated with Clickbank.net, the payment and affiliate gateway through which IllusionMage is being sold and the scam carried out, for the express and deliberate purpose of lending an air of faked authenticity - by citing these numbers the scammer is reinforcing the perception of the products 'persona', making it appear more 'real' and 'truthful' than it actually is. Sales Rank and Refund Rates information is not generally available to the public, so your common-or-garden-varity article author doesn't have access to the kind of numbers that would facilitate their being able to calculate a score in the first place, that is of course, unless they're an affiliate themselves, in which case they would have access to their own sales numbers, based on commission, from which they would then be able to calculate the Clickbank Rank and Rate. It's all relative though as only the original product seller would have a true picture of the items Sales Rank and Refund Rate and as these new articles prove, even that's faked for the sake of the scam.



Screengrab from Clickbank.net, each Facebook 'like' shown in the above image is someone 'earning' an affiliate commission through the promotion of the scam (or just a 'like' based on not knowing what's actually going on) - obviously this does mean watching out for fake IllusionMage Facebook profiles, groups and pages set up to promote the scam (of which there are a good few, report them as "spam/scam") if you find them).

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 01:00:52 pm »
Hi,

I registered especially to bring you up to date at this one.

Ton wrote an article about this rebranding, scamming and leeching thing with 3dmagix(pro) and IllusionMage at http://www.blender.org/blenderorg/blender-foundation/press/re-branding-blender/

He also published some more sources of the images used on these scamsites with links to the respective webpages of the rightful copyrightholders.

Greetings

Jeroen

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 01:10:38 pm »
Thanks for posting the info, it's certainly good to see Ton finally addressing the issue directly that's for sure ;)

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 11:15:47 am »
Some action is being taken. I can't do much myself because I don't run websites and stuff but read all about it on Blendernation. http://www.blendernation.com/2011/02/02/3dmagix-and-illusionmage-scam-or-open-source-leeches/

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2011, 11:25:57 am »
Thanks for the headsup.. just posted some comments there.

[edit] turns out (thanks to "Paul" posting the link on BlenderNation) that all the video tutorials included in this 'package' are grabbed from http://www.ibiblio.org/bvidtute/ as they're released under "Art Libre" license, which does allow "commercial use" of material so long as attribution is stated, not just license inclusion.

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Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro (affiliate) domain names
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2011, 01:33:41 pm »

Domain names associated with the scam, likely registered using aliases or third parties (affiliates).

illusionmage

illusionmage3d

illusionmage3danimationsoftware

illusion-mage-3d-animator

3d-image-software

  • 3d-image-software.com: "Ed Dreyer" ChaseDat LLC,    PublicDomainRegistry - http://publicdomainregistry.com (USA)

softwarefor3d

3dmagixpro

3dmagix


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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2011, 01:58:46 pm »
Kat,

On your post of 1 december you show this picture of a supposedly anti scam website called scamx.net. I visited this site and afterwards googled it, and my impression is that this isn't an anti scam site at all.

Just have a look at the results that i got

"The 31 Day Fat Loss Cure SCAM | Scam   - [ Vertaal deze pagina ]8 Jul 2010 ... Is The 31 Day Fat Loss Cure SCAM or The Real Deal? The truth will shock you: Download The 31 Day Fat Loss Cure From This SECRET Link The 31 ...
scamx.net/the-31-day-fat-loss-cure-scam - In cache"

"Compete Tick SCAM | Scam   - [ Vertaal deze pagina ]18 Nov 2010 ... Is Compete Tick SCAM or The Real Deal? The truth will shock you: Download Compete Tick ... Compete Tick is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED by ScamX.net… ...
scamx.net/compete-tick-scam - In cache"

"SportsBettingSolutions.net SCAM | SCAM   - [ Vertaal deze pagina ]Is SportsBettingSolutions.net SCAM or The Real Deal? The truth will shock you: Get SportsBettingSolutions.net From This SECRET Link If you are wondering.
scamx.org/sportsbettingsolutions-net-scam - In cache"

"GrammarSoftware.net SCAM | SCAM - [ Vertaal deze pagina ]Is Grammar-Software.net SCAM or The Real Deal? The truth will shock you: Get Grammar-Software.net From This SECRET Link If you are wondering about.
scamx.org/grammarsoftware-net-scam - In cache"

There apear to be two sites: scamx.net and scamx.org. Different design but the same articles. And all of these articles start with exactly the same phrase: Is [product] Scam or The Real Deal etc.

The SECRET link will invariably lead to the site of this "product"



My impression is that scamx.net and scamx.org actually try to cover up scams.

There is an antiscam website called scams.net (notice the slightly different spelling) www.scams.net but this site is a forum and doesn't seem to be too active.

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2011, 02:18:03 pm »
Oh I completely forgot about that so thanks for posting the update. And yeah, it's basically another article syndication site, albeit just dealing with spamming fake 'anti-scam' articles, after the traffic for affiliate link earning and Google Advertising. Wouldn't surprise me to see ClickBank associated with those other scams as well.

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Re: Illusion Mage & 3D Magix Pro *is* a scam
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2011, 09:04:07 pm »
Kat
You write up above that
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He's been exceptionally busy for the last couple of months in fact, submitting 'fake' reviews and articles to all manner of junk review sites; posting links and fake comments to others saying how good the product is; even posting fake anti-scam articles on anti-scam web sites to deliberately trick those looking for imformation about this scam into thinking it's not and buying into it. It's a win-win; he gets sales from the product, and income from Advert and affiliate traffic. Trouble is, it's all done  fraudulantly.
(same post of december 1)

I doubt it. Have you seen this?

http[:]//www[.]3dmagix[.]com/affiliates.htm
http[:]//www[.]illusionmage[.]com/affiliates.htm

He probably got help. There have to be people who fall for this.

[EDIT] neutered the links, don't want those sites getting any link benefits from here. kat

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More Illusion Mage/3D Magix scam websites
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2011, 09:40:20 pm »
Interesting to note that some (fake) video 'testimonials' have been added to some of the sites now (they were't there before), all apparently hosted with rackspacecloud.com (#c2913102). Whoever is really behind this must have spent a fortune registering alternative domain names, hosting, file distribution networks.. and all for traffic funneling. A few more domains;
Not to mention specifically targeting people that don't know any better by keyword stuffing the junk articles with search terms they typically use, never mind Blender... it's pretty deliberate stuff.