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ratty redemption [RIP]:
good points, and i've sent a message to vsc. it will be interesting to hear if she was aware of this. she might have uploaded to their site for all we know at the moment.

and yes, she's got quite upset in the past, with some of the yt channels who were doing this, as they were ignoring her requests to remove her content. if i remember correctly she even threatened one of them with a dmca. but then they were running ads on the stolen content. i think at least one of them eventually got shut down by yt, since it was against the tos.

am i correct in thinking that blenderhub aren't hosting the videos themselves, and instead embedding the yt player with links to the original content? if that is the case, it's still still not ethical (if they don't have permission) but it's not as bad as re-uploading.

regarding communities, like yourself, vsc answers a lot of questions from her viewers. especially as her videos are usually intended for beginners, and if users are watching her videos on some other channel, she won't get the feedback or be able to assist them if need be.

ratty redemption [RIP]:
vsc, just replied, thanking me for the heads up. she hadn't given them permission either, and she's going to request they remove her content. really it would save a lot of time and effort if they just asked first.

kat:
There's no point in arguing if she (or anyone for that matter) is 100% sure the YouTube users/channels are misappropriating content, just send an initial polite request give them a week of two to comply then file an abuse report if it's still up (likely a DMCA) - the same rules that apply and protect multi-national Corporations also protect us when employed properly.

The broader issue with BlenderHub, and other sites like it, isn't so much collating content together, but doing that as a "bad faith" abuse of the syndication system as a means to generate income at the authors expense AND/OR, as is the case specifically with BlenderHub, the creation of fake Author Accounts that then lay claim to hold those named to the sites binding terms without their explicit knowledge or permission - there are caveats to the former (fair use, derivative works etc.), absolutely none for the latter.

ratty redemption [RIP]:
understood and agreed. 3rd parties re-uploading an entire video without permission, or any additional commentary, critique etc doesn't come under fair use, does it?

regarding the fake author accounts, it's also implying to the end users that the authors have chosen to support those sites, yes? is there any way to prove an author didn't set up an account on one of these sites, if a user or other company wanted to hold them accountable for something?

kat:
There are some broad-ish 'guidelines' in case law concerning the degree of change required before something is no longer considered to be infringing, but that doesn't mean a person won't receive a Notice; the Copyright owner holds the all the cards in that respect, the Courts decide if/whether or not either party has a case (or not).

Yes that's another point about the fake/proxy accounts, it creates the impression the Author is endorsing the site through the presence of their content, when the opposite might actually be the case. This is why informed consent is important, something its not a good idea at all to mess with. In such circumstances one can only make general requests or appeals to site owner to remove accounts they knowingly created themselves on behalf of others, else it's up to the individuals allegedly being represented to take up the issue.

It's a Catch 22 though because these bad faith sites and actors could refuse to do anything or simply outright ignore requests unless the Author revealed some Personally Identifiable Information as proof; fake/proxy accounts can be used to essentially hold Authors to ransom in other words (used as a means to "doxx"). Sites like that are extremely difficult to deal with because they don't care, their hosting Companies often don't care, everyone down the chain equally doesn't care.

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