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[Q4] Map Editing Trouble

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cuetip:
I just ordered the censored version (which will most likely take weeks to get to me because it's coming from Germany). What I've been doing is deleting the select models from the maps that contain them and then recompiling them. I've been able to locate every model in every map except for this one. I'm only able to find the models from phase2 of the map, not phase1 for some reason. I understand how to override assets but that's not what I'm doing right now. The only thing I'm overriding is the edited maps (which does work). But what I don't understand is why the phase1 models don't appear in radiant in the entity list. I looked at every single entity even though it took me a few hours. I could not find the first phase models. Every time the map is loaded, be it via normal game progression or the console (devmap game\storage1), those first phase entities are there. When I progress to phase2 the models that I deleted in radiant are gone as expected. Again, my problem is that I can't seem to find the entities from phase1 in radiant. Do you know anything about maps like that? A map that has brushes and models that are moved or removed after returning to the map from a different map in-game?

kat:
As I've been saying, that sounds like the assets are being removed and replaced using a script which is why they don't show up in Radiant, they won't if the editor doesn't have them registered in the entity list. The fact that it's being done for censorship reasons makes no odds as it uses the same process as normal game triggered events. If the assets are there in game then you've simply not found them yet...  It could also be that the models are "inline" which means they're compiled into the map itself, again another reason why they won't necessarily show in Radiant.

Having said all of that though, if I were you I'd just step away from this for a few days and come back to it with fresh eyes, right now all you're doing is getting frustrated and going round in circles, which obviously doesn't help.

cuetip:
I haven't worked on this for mod for days. And I'm not frustrated, just curious  ;)

EDIT: I redid storage1 saved it, compiled it, and had the map load normally from the end of mcc_2 and everything I deleted was gone :) My mod is just about finished now. I just have to make a few screenshots for some edited levels, package it all up, and I'm done :) Thanks for the help. I'm not really a modder, but when I'm doing something new like map editing, I like to know why something is, not just how to do it ;)

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